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		<title>By: sathya</title>
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		<dc:creator>sathya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hai.......
I would like to know about the working  hours in TCS.
Is there any night shifts??????????&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-50687&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hai&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
I would like to know about the working  hours in TCS.<br />
Is there any night shifts??????????
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		<title>By: devu</title>
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		<dc:creator>devu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hai guys............

I got the offer letter from TCS this month.
I am very much happy on that.
But when i read these comments  I became crazy.
Anyon ecan help me in taking the wise decision.
I would like to know the benefits &amp;  positive side in TCS.
Also the negative side.......
can anyone know about the rules and regulations of bond??
and what will happen if i break the bond..............
plzzzzzzzzz
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
help meeeeeeeeeee
guysssssssssss&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-50685&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hai guys&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I got the offer letter from TCS this month.<br />
I am very much happy on that.<br />
But when i read these comments  I became crazy.<br />
Anyon ecan help me in taking the wise decision.<br />
I would like to know the benefits &amp;  positive side in TCS.<br />
Also the negative side&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
can anyone know about the rules and regulations of bond??<br />
and what will happen if i break the bond&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
plzzzzzzzzz<br />
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br />
help meeeeeeeeeee<br />
guysssssssssss
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		<title>By: Employee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Most of the concerns are true. 

TCS has failed in huge margin to retain valuable resources ( i mean truly skilled employees who can very well present/showcase/deliver things to Clients ). 

You have to understand one thing, TCS&#039;s presence in IT industry is since 1968 and there are many white elephants in TCS who are currently working as region head or ISU portfolio head or GL, BRMs etc... who are contributing to TCS&#039;s overhead cost.  If you have joined TCS as fresher during past 4- 6 yrs, your growth in TCS is so sluggish. Either you should have a Godfather who can push you through the ladder. This is so true in TCS.  Talk to the manager in his mother tongue regularly and u can be assured of better role and client place of your expectation. It sucks.. True.  It does.  Recently, TCS got a new Client and the project is full of only those associates with common region ( or mother tongue ) starting from BRM, GL, manager till the fresher.   :-)  

All these do demotivate and its sad that we are working in TCS and forced to forget abt Ethics. ( Guess wat, hardly anyone can think of TATA code of conduct ). And, HR?????    its employer&#039;s human resource and not employees. This support group is totally nonfunctional and forced to listen to the GLs or Account heads and their only role is to see make sure backend adjustments of appraisals (H1, H2, Annual ) or Promotions are taken care as per the GLs  wish.

I feel this happens in almost all companies , might be less in non india based MNCs.  

[b]
Here are the highlights on TCS
- Managers or leads have no Ethics concern as their supervisors are the same and have to please them.
- Worst hit employees are freshers ( 0 - 3yrs exp ) and 4 - 6yrs exp TCSers joined as freshers who are deprived of package, promotions, roles.
- HR is so nonfunctional and short staffed. They work primarily on some reporting and junk process stuffs with &lt;3% interaction with Employees.
- Main thing, there are many 10+ exp TCSers who are so noncompetitive, but in  managorial posts with zero ethics and burden to TCS salary expense.
- Its easy to build bondage with your supervisor if you talk him with his mother tongue(mainly Malyalam &amp; Telugu ) and so u will get good Appraisals and opportunities. 
- Lists goes on.... cant express this in PULSE  ( TCS feedback portal ) 

[/b]
Time is ticking for me to put on papers. Its just that i have some hope as i was able to work with few very good managers and BRMs who followed and tried their level best to encourage Professional ethics.   

Also, even if i quit, i think its like going from one pit to another pit with similar unethical issues.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48753&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Most of the concerns are true. </p>
<p>TCS has failed in huge margin to retain valuable resources ( i mean truly skilled employees who can very well present/showcase/deliver things to Clients ). </p>
<p>You have to understand one thing, TCS&#8217;s presence in IT industry is since 1968 and there are many white elephants in TCS who are currently working as region head or ISU portfolio head or GL, BRMs etc&#8230; who are contributing to TCS&#8217;s overhead cost.  If you have joined TCS as fresher during past 4- 6 yrs, your growth in TCS is so sluggish. Either you should have a Godfather who can push you through the ladder. This is so true in TCS.  Talk to the manager in his mother tongue regularly and u can be assured of better role and client place of your expectation. It sucks.. True.  It does.  Recently, TCS got a new Client and the project is full of only those associates with common region ( or mother tongue ) starting from BRM, GL, manager till the fresher.   <img src='http://www.dexternights.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>All these do demotivate and its sad that we are working in TCS and forced to forget abt Ethics. ( Guess wat, hardly anyone can think of TATA code of conduct ). And, HR?????    its employer&#8217;s human resource and not employees. This support group is totally nonfunctional and forced to listen to the GLs or Account heads and their only role is to see make sure backend adjustments of appraisals (H1, H2, Annual ) or Promotions are taken care as per the GLs  wish.</p>
<p>I feel this happens in almost all companies , might be less in non india based MNCs.  </p>
<p>[b]<br />
Here are the highlights on TCS<br />
- Managers or leads have no Ethics concern as their supervisors are the same and have to please them.<br />
- Worst hit employees are freshers ( 0 &#8211; 3yrs exp ) and 4 &#8211; 6yrs exp TCSers joined as freshers who are deprived of package, promotions, roles.<br />
- HR is so nonfunctional and short staffed. They work primarily on some reporting and junk process stuffs with &lt;3% interaction with Employees.<br />
- Main thing, there are many 10+ exp TCSers who are so noncompetitive, but in  managorial posts with zero ethics and burden to TCS salary expense.<br />
- Its easy to build bondage with your supervisor if you talk him with his mother tongue(mainly Malyalam &amp; Telugu ) and so u will get good Appraisals and opportunities.<br />
- Lists goes on&#8230;. cant express this in PULSE  ( TCS feedback portal ) </p>
<p>[/b]<br />
Time is ticking for me to put on papers. Its just that i have some hope as i was able to work with few very good managers and BRMs who followed and tried their level best to encourage Professional ethics.   </p>
<p>Also, even if i quit, i think its like going from one pit to another pit with similar unethical issues.
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		<title>By: chandu</title>
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		<dc:creator>chandu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys no changes we can expect in future as the HR there in that account is worst and unfit for that job,she dont even listen and blindly says talk to your manager i cannot do any thing ,I resigned recently from that account TCS, there is no release in that project the only way out is out of company which i did , the managers there are even worse they always say wait for another year and this goes on as u get familiar u will get less performance ratings and they threaten in different ways they explore and play with u, this threatening goes on until you die this is what happenned this is ridiculous even to type this i hope TCS sack this HR and give training to managers to handle fresh employees atleast in true TCS way, I think this happens only in TCS bangalore as my friends in other locations are pretty happy in other locations and never complain. in bangalore firms think if one guy leaves plenty will come so the value for the employee is not taken into account. because of the managers in that account TCS lost many highly skilled employees in that account as i was there more than 3 years...............&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48545&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys no changes we can expect in future as the HR there in that account is worst and unfit for that job,she dont even listen and blindly says talk to your manager i cannot do any thing ,I resigned recently from that account TCS, there is no release in that project the only way out is out of company which i did , the managers there are even worse they always say wait for another year and this goes on as u get familiar u will get less performance ratings and they threaten in different ways they explore and play with u, this threatening goes on until you die this is what happenned this is ridiculous even to type this i hope TCS sack this HR and give training to managers to handle fresh employees atleast in true TCS way, I think this happens only in TCS bangalore as my friends in other locations are pretty happy in other locations and never complain. in bangalore firms think if one guy leaves plenty will come so the value for the employee is not taken into account. because of the managers in that account TCS lost many highly skilled employees in that account as i was there more than 3 years&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;
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		<title>By: Employee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>absolutely correct&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48536&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>absolutely correct
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		<title>By: Employee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 04:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upon confirmation after completeion of 1 year the hike given is Rs 5 annually...
the package from a long time for freshers is 3.15 .
4.5 is a distant dream both for tcs and freshers...
after 2 year , based on extremely good perforance and rating=5 you will get 4.5 at max.. or may a little lesser&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48534&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upon confirmation after completeion of 1 year the hike given is Rs 5 annually&#8230;<br />
the package from a long time for freshers is 3.15 .<br />
4.5 is a distant dream both for tcs and freshers&#8230;<br />
after 2 year , based on extremely good perforance and rating=5 you will get 4.5 at max.. or may a little lesser
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		<title>By: TCSITPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCSITPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today , TCS work culture have touched another low , when TCS one associate committed suicide by jumping from the Office building. This happened today at TCS, Bangalore ITPL at Explorer Building 11 floor .

Associates working there must be well aware about the work environment &gt; Hopefully this sad incident will open some eyes and some +ve steps will taken to stop harassing Associates by Threatening, blackmailing and insulting them .&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48433&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today , TCS work culture have touched another low , when TCS one associate committed suicide by jumping from the Office building. This happened today at TCS, Bangalore ITPL at Explorer Building 11 floor .</p>
<p>Associates working there must be well aware about the work environment &gt; Hopefully this sad incident will open some eyes and some +ve steps will taken to stop harassing Associates by Threatening, blackmailing and insulting them .
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		<title>By: TCSITPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCSITPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today on 20-august-2010 TCS Bangalore at ITPL , Explorer Building 11 floor , One of TCS associate named Sudarshan Committed suicide by jumping from 11th floor. He died on the spot.I worked on the same placed and I know what was going on there.Luckily last month I got release from the project.

I came to know from that project associates that Sudarshan was reprimanded and threatened by the project managers very badly just few minutes back when he did this gruesome act.

So many times I have written to HR about this Threatening mechanism of TCS managers and continuous violation of  Tata Code of Conduct  (so called) but all in vein. That place have culture and process in which 3 to 5 managers/leads will surrounds one associate  in separate room and threaten ,blackmail , and humiliate him like anything . Of course no need to mention that  environment and management is highly biased and decremental and favor only on the basis of Region and Mother Tongue.

One of the main reason for this suicide is that HR is highly Incapable and non-sense lady and she doesn&#039;t have any morality. 

Autocratic , extortionist and highly biased conduct and work culture is becoming trade for TCS Bangalore.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-48432&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today on 20-august-2010 TCS Bangalore at ITPL , Explorer Building 11 floor , One of TCS associate named Sudarshan Committed suicide by jumping from 11th floor. He died on the spot.I worked on the same placed and I know what was going on there.Luckily last month I got release from the project.</p>
<p>I came to know from that project associates that Sudarshan was reprimanded and threatened by the project managers very badly just few minutes back when he did this gruesome act.</p>
<p>So many times I have written to HR about this Threatening mechanism of TCS managers and continuous violation of  Tata Code of Conduct  (so called) but all in vein. That place have culture and process in which 3 to 5 managers/leads will surrounds one associate  in separate room and threaten ,blackmail , and humiliate him like anything . Of course no need to mention that  environment and management is highly biased and decremental and favor only on the basis of Region and Mother Tongue.</p>
<p>One of the main reason for this suicide is that HR is highly Incapable and non-sense lady and she doesn&#8217;t have any morality. </p>
<p>Autocratic , extortionist and highly biased conduct and work culture is becoming trade for TCS Bangalore.
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		<title>By: Ankur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ankur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is tre and i just asked my manager for a promotion, worked 100 hrs this week. But TCS offers worldly experience that rewards, this guy has only got this offer bc TCS was on his resume. I have learned so much and done more then that this year. Always fight, as they say it&#039;s business not personal.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47845&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is tre and i just asked my manager for a promotion, worked 100 hrs this week. But TCS offers worldly experience that rewards, this guy has only got this offer bc TCS was on his resume. I have learned so much and done more then that this year. Always fight, as they say it&#8217;s business not personal.
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		<title>By: xyz</title>
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		<dc:creator>xyz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fresher join this shit and after completing 2 years move out, that should be your goal.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;Current score: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-47605&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fresher join this shit and after completing 2 years move out, that should be your goal.
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